(soz might have put this in the wrong place earlier!) Hi I have just signed up to sky and was wondering what the best way to export recordings? I dont really want to pay out for mutliroom and already have a decent NAS drive with lots of films on, the plan is to record them on sky (HD if poss) then export them to the NAS to stream round the house or take with me on my laptop. I understand that one of the easiest ways to do this is to just play the recording and record it on a PVR or HDD recorder, I was hoping someone would be able to recommend a decent and cheapest device for doing this (pref in HD but scart would be OK). My main concern is that it would be difficult to export the recorded content from the recording device and would like this to be painless as possible. Any thing which would record and export in a format supported by PS3's/XBoxs etc would be ideal as I current use a few of these to receive streams from my NAS. Any help appreciated. No help from me, I'm afraid - but I would like to echo your question.
Transfer recorded program from freesat to usb stick (external hardive)? If the box has a USB port and some software came with it (like the Humax) you can. If not - you can't easily. Combo you are using, it's hard to say if it has a USB port, or if it has the onboard backup facility, or if it requires PC/Mac connection to do. Can ExPVR copy from a standard definition Sky+ box or Thompson Sky HD box to. Can ExPVR copy Sky+ or Sky+HD recordings to my PC (to watch in media.
We have just had our 6th and 7th Sky+ boxes (the two most recent being Sky HD+ boxes) fail. I have learned not to give the failed box to Sky - so I am accumulating failed boxes and hard drives I hope to one day be able to copy. I'd purchased a Panasonic DMR-BS850 BluRay recorder. My idea was to transfer (as you also wish to do) the programmes from the Sky HD+ box for archival purposes.
The glum Sky guy looked at my Panasonic box and said that I could only record HD programmes from FreeSat - and to do this we'd need to apparently run another set of leads from our satellite dish. This is because (according to him) the only way HD programming could get into the Panasonic box was through the satellite connections. There are a couple of SCART sockets on the back of the Panasonic box, but he said there was no HDMI 'in' socket. He told me I needed to purchase a BluRay recorder (which I thought I had) where I could run the signal from the Sky HD+ box to the Bluray recorder via an HDMI cable, and then run it out of the BluRay recorder to our television. I guess the idea was that the BluRay recorder would sit between Sky HD+ box and television, and would record when I turned it on.
Had a prowl on the internet, and I could only find stand-alone BluRay writers that use Firewire or USB2 connections. I couldn't find a single one that talked about HDMI cables. Look forward to finally trying to understand how best to do this. No help from me, I'm afraid - but I would like to echo your question. We have just had our 6th and 7th Sky+ boxes (the two most recent being Sky HD+ boxes) fail. I have learned not to give the failed box to Sky - so I am accumulating failed boxes and hard drives I hope to one day be able to copy. I'd purchased a Panasonic DMR-BS850 BluRay recorder.
My idea was to transfer (as you also wish to do) the programmes from the Sky HD+ box for archival purposes. The glum Sky guy looked at my Panasonic box and said that I could only record HD programmes from FreeSat - and to do this we'd need to apparently run another set of leads from our satellite dish.
This is because (according to him) the only way HD programming could get into the Panasonic box was through the satellite connections. There are a couple of SCART sockets on the back of the Panasonic box, but he said there was no HDMI 'in' socket. He told me I needed to purchase a BluRay recorder (which I thought I had) where I could run the signal from the Sky HD+ box to the Bluray recorder via an HDMI cable, and then run it out of the BluRay recorder to our television. I guess the idea was that the BluRay recorder would sit between Sky HD+ box and television, and would record when I turned it on.
Had a prowl on the internet, and I could only find stand-alone BluRay writers that use Firewire or USB2 connections. I couldn't find a single one that talked about HDMI cables. Look forward to finally trying to understand how best to do this. Click to expand.I hadn't looked at the back of the new HD+ 1TB box that was installed today.
Sure enough there's a USB, Ethernet, and SATA socket on the back. But when I looked in the manual that came with the box, these sockets are shaded out and there's no mention that they actually work. Our old Sky+ box had an Ethernet socket - and as many have recorded on this forum, the socket was just there to torment us. It didn't work - wasn't connected (apparently) to anything. Does anybody know if these sockets actually work, or has Sky just tripled the torment? I hadn't looked at the back of the new HD+ 1TB box that was installed today.
Sure enough there's a USB, Ethernet, and SATA socket on the back. But when I looked in the manual that came with the box, these sockets are shaded out and there's no mention that they actually work. Our old Sky+ box had an Ethernet socket - and as many have recorded on this forum, the socket was just there to torment us. It didn't work - wasn't connected (apparently) to anything. Does anybody know if these sockets actually work, or has Sky just tripled the torment?
Sky always get the design engineers to just use the chip supplier's reference designs when developing their boxes. Since the chipsets have the ports available, they appear on the boxes, even on the early Thomsons. But they have never been enabled. The raw cost of the boxes is trivial and it costs nothing to include these ports compared to the revenue Sky get via channel subscriptions. The only exception to this is the inclusion of the component out on the early Thomsons.
This facility has been removed on later HD boxes to aid in prevention of HD copies of channel material. You cannot yet connect any additional external drives to any Sky box via usb or esata socket.
The only way of copying HD material off the box is via the HDMI (or component sockets - only fitted to early Thomson boxes) and pressing play on Sky box, although you will probably hit major problems with HDCP stopping any form of copying except on the component outputs. The best you can hope for without expensive copy protection avoiding equipment is an SD copy from the RGB scart outputs again in real time using play/copy on the Sky box. The ethernet socket is for connection to broadband for Sky's forthcoming Anytime+ VOD service and NOT for networking the box. Sky have complied with DRM in making it as difficult as possible to copy anything HD off the hard disk to other media. The only easy way to copy anything is from one hard disk to another using copy+ BUT that disk will only be usable in a Sky box for anything other than FTA recordings (which can be extracted using extract+) as all recordings are raw encrypted streams direct from the tuner section of the box. You cannot yet connect any additional external drives to any Sky box via usb or esata socket.
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The only way of copying HD material off the box is via the HDMI (or component sockets - only fitted to early Thomson boxes) and pressing play on Sky box, although you will probably hit major problems with HDCP stopping any form of copying except on the component outputs. The best you can hope for without expensive copy protection avoiding equipment is an SD copy from the RGB scart outputs again in real time using play/copy on the Sky box. The ethernet socket is for connection to broadband for Sky's forthcoming Anytime+ VOD service and NOT for networking the box. Sky have complied with DRM in making it as difficult as possible to copy anything HD off the hard disk to other media. The only easy way to copy anything is from one hard disk to another using copy+ BUT that disk will only be usable in a Sky box for anything other than FTA recordings (which can be extracted using extract+) as all recordings are raw encrypted streams direct from the tuner section of the box. The usb port was first added to Sky+ boxes to allow connection of a portable media device - Pace actually developed and produced a prototype which they exhibited at an electronics show many years ago but it never went into production because of DRM rights issues.
The esata port has been added for future use (extra external use of a HDD in a caddY?) The ethernet port is for connection to a router for Sky's Anytime+ VOD service. Rights holders allowed Sky to put component outputs on the first Thomson Sky HD boxes because of the large number of TVs/PJs without HDMI inputs but it was on the understanding these would be removed on later boxes (and there is even a rumour that they would be disabled on the early Thomson boxes by a firmware upgrade at a later stage). So basically all your problems are down to Sky's strict adherance to DRM and HDCP which really is only to expected with the fees Sky have to pay for rights for the programming. As far as I am aware there isn't a blu-ray recorder which will record HD source from external devices (ie sky+HD) - they will only record HD content from their own HD tuners (ie £700 for a useless doorstop imho). I cannot see the legal difference between being able to copy to dvd (SD quality) and being able to do the same in HD - both are only legal if you are doing it for your own personal use only. However whilst there isn't a blu-ray recorder able to do this (which would be the easiest option) you are limited to trying to get the HD content onto a pc somehow. These are probably stupid questions - please don't bite my head off.
Is there no such thing as a BluRay recorder with an HDMI input? I couldn't find one, but all the technical specifications are confusing to me. The Sky Guy who came today seemed to think that there was. He talked about getting a HDMI 'splitter.'
The idea, as he explained it, was to have a single HDMI cable come out of the Sky+ box and go into the splitter. An HDMI cable would go from the splitter to some sort of external BluRay recorder, and a second HDMI cable would go from the splitter to our TV. Problem is I can't find a BluRay burner with an HDMI input.
I don't suppose there's an HDMI-to-USB2 (or Firewire) converter? Click to expand.I have a LiteOn 5055 HDD/DVD Recorder and I use this to record the SCART output from my Sky+ HD box. It has a modified firmware on it that allowed protected material to be copied though I remember at the time that certain Sky channels could still not be copied (it was long before I got my Sky box) and Nat Geo was one mentioned. I don't have Movies so I can't check out whether they can be copied across. The LiteOns suffered from poor DVD drives that failed frequently (mine has failed to write a disk that can be read anywhere but the LiteOn itself for a while now) and that was my normal method of extracting the recordings to my PC for editing and storage so now I just remove the HDD and put it into a USB case and copy the files across - these then need to be joined together and converted using JoinVobFiles and MediaCoder. You might be able to pick up a LiteOn cheap with a failed DVD drive - I still have a copy of the modified firmware.
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Click to expand.In the UK or Europe no. Even if there was it wouldn't be able to record anything that was HDCP protected which is nearly everything in HD from Sky. Plenty exist in Japan but their broadcasts are not copy protected AIUI, you can buy a 4TB hard drive, 4HD + 4SD tuner, 2 HDMI input, blu-ray recorder box or even higher spec there but here you can forget it here. As you have found the Panasonic freesat bd recorder only records HD to BD from it's inmternal tuner and then only if the DRM allows. The only viable options to capture an HD output from a Sky Box here are PC based.
There are some HDMI input capture cards but they only do stereo sound and won't accept a HDCP protected feed, so would only work if you could lay your hands on a working HDMI to HDMI HDCP stripper and these are virtually non existant due to threatened legal actions. The device itself is perfectly legal as I understand it but the HDCP chip makers make it a licenseing condition that the chips not be used to make such a device so the few that existed (which apparently were not totally reliable anyway) vanished ages ago. The other is to use a Hauppauge HD PVR with a PC which can capture analog HD via component video with 5.1 audio but to do that you need either an old Thomson box with component video outputs or a HDMI to component video converter and HDCP stripper like a HD Fury II which costs roughtly £100 (+ a splitter if you don't want to have keep disconnecting reconecting cables), (stripping HDCP while converting to analoge is deemed acceptable while digital to digital is not apparently).
Hi, I would like to know how do i transfer recorded programs from my freeview box to my computer/ hard drive? I have a Humax pvr-9150t freeview box and i want to take the recorded programs off the box and watch them on my computer which is an advent but then i will put them on a hard drive.
I do not know much about televisions and cables which is why i need some help, i don’t know what cable to take out and where to plug it in or if this is what i am meant to even be doing. I also do not know if i need to download some kind of software on my computer to convert the programs once they have been transferred. If anyone can offer me help or a step to step guide on what i am meant to do then i will very much appreciate it. QUOTE=MegancampbellHi, I would like to know how do i transfer recorded programs from my freeview box to my computer/ hard drive? I have a Humax pvr-9150t freeview box and i want to take the recorded programs off the box and watch them on my computer which is an advent but then i will put them on a hard drive. I do not know much about televisions and cables which is why i need some help, i don’t know what cable to take out and where to plug it in or if this is what i am meant to even be doing. I also do not know if i need to download some kind of software on my computer to convert the programs once they have been transferred.
If anyone can offer me help or a step to step guide on what i am meant to do then i will very much appreciate it. /QUOTE Hi Megan and welcome to the forums. It’s possible to open up this unit, remove the hard drive and read the recorded files in a PC and you’ll find other sites discussing this but I wouldn’t recommend it for several reasons. Firstly you could inadvertently damage something unless you know exactly what you’re doing, secondly it has been known for PCs to slightly corrupt the drive when reading it in Windows and thirdly it’s not exactly the most convenient method to have to dismantle your equipment every time you want to transfer a recording. A much simpler method would be to connect a DVD recorder to the Humax and record whatever programs you want directly onto DVD. You can then either watch the disc directly in your PC or copy the disc to your computer’s hard drive and watch it from there.
If you don’t want to keep them on DVD (as this is potentially just a means to an end) you can use a rewritable disc and erase it when you’re finished. That particular model doesn’t have an HDMI output so in this instance you’ll get the best quality by connecting the DVD recorder to the Humax with a SCART lead.